Powerful but poised. Most amazingly, it doesnt smell like resin at all! Its so repletely kyara there arent even discernable top notes, heart notes, nor much of a base. WebIt smelled nothing like Burmese oud, and had none of the 'barnyard' characteristics of Chinese oud. Kinam is hyped up so much because few know what theyre talking about. And the moment you realize theres more going on. The Japanese incense houses and Chinese agarwood collectors monopolize kinam because they sought out and bought out all of it over the years, long before others caught on thats why soil kyara is a big thing now, because with no living kyara trees standing, the only place youre likely to find kyara today is underground. Its equally rare to find Brunei Kinam for sale, and even the offers ones you do find are soilkinam not kinam from living trees. This is surrounded by delicate natural notes of Japanese Rose, sandalwood, patchouli and hinoki (Japanese cedar) . As is mentioned in reviews below, Kyara is the name of the oud wood most highly prized in Japan and China. WebRectovaginal fistula: A rare condition where the opening between your rectum and vagina allows feces to leak into your vagina. Borneo Kinam is on sale for a short while only. All this cultivated Kinam talkplaced e-bay order on January 31still waiting on it Did you get a tracking number? Today, Ranjatai belongs to the Royal family of Japan. The fragrance is like an aristocrat in its elegance and gracefulness." Kyararemains a mystery to this day even for the most seasoned collectors of vintagekyarachips. Kyara This is the most famous and well known of all Aloes wood some believe to come from either Vietnam or Cambodia. Either to denote that it somehow displays a scent facet ofkyarachips when burned; or that it stands, in comparison to other oils in its category, askyaradoes to other woodi.e. Edited by Scents of Earth. On the surface, it looks like nobody has a clue. Is Kyara better than that? I am new to incense, I would like to know the differences between these products. This is one of them. **Five associations used to classify aloes wood aromas in ancient Japan. I then gave them a swipe of oud and asked them to go back and forth between the taste on their tongueand the smell on their wrist. I dont buy the claim that kinam is a modern marketing tool, but I do get why people say this. In every aspect too, not just beauty, but everything else as well. WebTaylor Swift has collaborated with many different brands to create signature scents and a candle. And they dont flaunt it. Dimension of? Thats what I find so fascinating about discussions about kinam: the uncertainty. We could use yet another image to help clarify the issue: ALL students of the medical profression have the potential to become a doctor. Hi oud learner, I have no doubt about your experience with the wood and you are most likely right about it, but this is not what is representing by 2 of the vendors who are selling this type of oud oils: Peter. Welcome to r/incense, a community dedicated to the discussion of incense of all kinds. Only bizarre thing is a subtle to moderate note of grilled steak served blue. Were no longer talking sinking-grade here, or about an untapped jungle. For any oudhead, this is a delicious festival to look forward to, drinking in the meticulousness of oudheads that went before. Theres no cardamom, no mint; no jungle vibe, earthiness, or forest note. France is renowned for its perfume industry and is home to some of the worlds most famous perfumeries, such as the Maison Guerlain. Bright, Famous If the Holy Grail is to capture the scent of gently heated agarwood, why not just gently heat the agarwood? Simply amazing. A fellow oud connoisseur, Thomas S., had this to add to the discussion: If we substitute, for the sake of this discussion, the word kyara with cherry, we see a different definition coming up. This might have been true two hundred years ago, but certainly doesnt apply today. that it constitutes the apex of that oud family. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. It is not even a scent as much as it is an experience.Phil / USA, This oil is simply outrageous, it has no peer. I tried Kyara for first time today. 327 Carpenter Lane He didnt warn me that it came with a side of knafeh fresh out the oven. And right behind them, another fleet of Maseratis, and, and. Im not offering you a mystery: This is kyara as identified by kyara experts in Japan and China, and sold as kyara by the most respected authorities in the field. You can order any of our kinam (Vietnam,Brunei, or this Borneo)right nowand know more than anyone stuck in them charts will in a decade speculating about what this bitter note is theyre talking about. Its not marketing. Houzan reminds me a bit of the Confucious Kyara stick from Baiedo. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Ryugen was the first kyara stick I bought, it was the short box of mini sticks. Ensar Oud said Kyara is like having the full Baklava boxed and delivered in all its glory. Scents of Earth But if someone with more experience and a deeper appreciation for nuance identifies differences, that doesnt mean he makes things up. Kyara will vary by grade, region, locality inside that region. I am growing to like this note. Soulstirring. Instead, as with a sliver of kinam sizzling, you encounter a single pristine note of immediate beauty that goes beyond origin. That peppery note kept drawing me in and showing me new things. It is a special oil. Because it just does; Chokoh too. Yet there is nothing smoky about the oil if it makes any sense. But if someone with more experience and a deeper appreciation for nuance identifies differences, that doesnt mean he makes things up. Proof? Despite how hungry some fakesters are to make a buck, they know theres too much Borneo wood around to compare his Borneo kinam to and get exposed. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA. Nha Trang seems to have delinked itself.Fahad / UAE. But if you insist on Vietnamese kinam being the only kinam out there, youll still be left in awe at how these Brunei, Borneo, and Chinese palettes smell SO out of this world compared to regular varieties from the same regions. Some few dozen plus injections. The next generation said, wow, do you smell that? you dont get this note in that batch. Thats how you get white kinam and purple kinam, and Papuan oud oil. I am grateful there is a guy crazy enough to make these truly beautiful oils. I thought that this is what it was supposed to smell like, but when I put my face The Aloeswood is excellent for what it is and it's really the 'afterscent' that gets this one for me. Meaning :Kyara means Bright, Famous. We gave our guests a Japanese kyara pellet to chew on. Memories though can distract from mindfulness, and the Nha Trang is pure presence, resonating like a singing bowl, calling you back to mindfulness, helping you to see memories and let them go and be aware of the beauty youre being given now. The best quality is Kyara, which comes in four types: Green, Iron, Purple, and Black. It is fair to say, at this point, thatKyarais a subject we need to agree to disagree about. Its been prized in their olfactory cultures for centuries. Its aimis to capture as correctly as possible the scent of Vietnamese Kinam, and to that end, Vietnamese, Chinese (Hong Kong & Hainan) shavings were distilled along with cleaning dust from proper Cambodian Kinam. That people arent sure what it smells like; that to them kinam doesnt really stand out from the crowd. A chemical smell often falls under the category of fishy, says Minkin. Sweet -- Resembles the smell of honey or sugar. You know its nonsense, but hereally believed this and taught it as truth. If all kinam smells the same to you, fine. There are many stories about aloeswood being buried under the ground for hundreds of years. Today the resin is commonly called Jinko, Aloeswood, Agarwood, and Oud. Pity I couldnt smell all the oils Ensar wanted to show me as I had to rush off to Borneo. I totally agree with you in regards to Nha Trang being a full-profile oil. Some believe kinam is purely a marketing gimmick. It is believed, the famous piece of aloeswood called Ranjatai was presented by Komyo Emperor for Todaiji Temple in Nara, Japan, in the year 756 A.D. Ranjatai was kept in the Shosoin warehouse of Todaiji Temple. The Kyara Kit lets you smell for yourself why the Chinese have a strong case for saying kinam isnt limited to Vietnam alone. That's why I have a lot of Edps, EOs(essential oils), Agarwood, Oudh, Incense, Kyara, Sandalwood, perfume oils/attars, Musk, Ambergris, resins, etc. If youre curious to learn more, take a walk inside your If youve heard the term kyara a million times, butnothing comes to mind, take a look at the pictures in this post. Compared to other ouds Ive tried, the beauty of Kyara lies in its less is more philosophy. Reading this you realize these texts werent meant for teaching To me, and especially these guys, its crystal clear what kinam is, is not, or ought to be. I thought I could help you but the funny thing is that I consulted my notes and my notes on this said that I should revisit it later because I wasn't catching the kyara. Maybe even more interesting in a certain way than the Nha Trang, because of Kyaras jungle memories. Smell the crme de la crme of theoud world and discover an olfactory journey like no other: Kyara |Kinam |Qinan. And youll pay more. Ganyu smells sweet (almost to a point it makes you sick) Beidou probably smells like wood (idk how to explain it) Mona smells like nothing, cause she's poor. And I feel entitled to it just as anyone else might feel entitled to theirs. WebDogs can be trained to smell several types of cancers, including melanoma, breast and gastrointestinal cancers and some infectious diseases in humans, including malaria and The beauty of the oil is staggering I tried a little Kynam No 1 this morning to compare, as there are some similarities in scent profile both are extraordinary, though I do believe I prefer the Kyara Certainly the Kyara is the bigger and deeper scent, with a rich dark woody quality in addition to the ethereal camphoric and green qualities a lot going on, and all of it so enjoyable Kynam No 1 smells lighter, more like a delicate kyara perfume sort of thing, whereas the Kyara is a freight-train blast of kyara vapors rising off the heater The oil is distilled in part from actual kyara, and the scent to me is the finest representation of Vietnamese green kyara I have come across.Josh/ USA, All this recent love and talk for Kyara is warranted. Its part of their culture and reflects their reverence for this precious aromatic. It is the supreme oud oil experience.Raaid / UK, Well it is Memorial Day here in the US. He taught a few Cambodian students, he explains, who told him that theres a unique snake that lives exclusively in agarwood trees and attacks anybody who tries to get near one. It resembled the most unearthly fragrance I had ever smelled in my life New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. That youre reading this means youre into a niche within a niche within a niche. JavaScript is disabled. Vanilla can elevate your mood. Kruger and I thought they were joking or testing us, but no they genuinely thought what they showed us is kinam. In many cases, the smell is Some believe kinam is purely a marketing gimmick. Already, there have been a few of my burn sessions where I can literally do nothing but just inhale the scent through my nose, barely even able to think. To smell more. I heated some lovely purple kinam last night, and also spent some time smelling the raw wood after freshly shaving my heater qty off it - very beautiful smell indeed - I agree LC that it is soul stirring.. Welli would say the green note is just one facet of the Kyara total scent profile and in totality, the smell from those oils are hardly an exact representation of a heated kyara sliver. Instead of philosophizing about what it is, is not, or ought to be this Kyara Kit shows you what it IS. Google's Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Connoisseurs refine their senses and appreciation because thats how you evolve. Certainly not as the enviromental factors will be different according to the specific jungle. I want to smell like butterflies. Anything not harvested in Vietnam, cannot be Kinam. How do I know what version of Lync CU I have? At that level, there is nothing really better, just different. Visit Baieido or Shoyeido and buy their kinam. A swipe of Kyara hits you with the whole shebang; the kyara top notes as you take your first whiff and feel that lingering cool flush through your nasal; the kinamic prickle as your taste buds feast on the smell. If it was all up in the air with fluffy fairytales, there wouldnt be millions of $ changing hands like you see in these circles. IfKyarais a unique, ultra rare species of Aquilaria tree that only grows in Vietnam, as Baieido maintains, then aKyaratree is aKyaratree irrespective of whether it contains anyKyara, just as an apple tree remains an apple tree even if it never bears a single apple. Throw together random batches from Hong Kong, Vietnam and Cambodia, and you wont get this smell. But theres no mystery about its smell. WebIt doesn't have that dark and musty wood smell, nor does it contain musk or smoky frankincense accents. Kinam is hard to find if you dont know where to look, and its expensive wherever its found. I have been waiting for any kind of clarity on this, you are the first to deliver. It gets more tricky when you hear that kinam doesnt even need to be agarwood! It almost smells like freshly cut grassand an old school lily of the valley perfume. The amount of wood it takes to transmute into a single drop of oil is enough to keep you heating until youre well high and flying. Kyara might have been cheaper, as was all agarwood, back in the day when there was more of it. It's arresting in its noticeability (I sometimes lose track of tasks I'm doing, so it's a 'sit on the meditation pillow bro' stick for me). If youve chewed on a bit of kyara, you know the difference between smelling a piece gently heated and the minty bite you feel when crushing a pellet with your teeth and sucking in the kyara juice. I think the notes youre catching are green kyara. Rather than guessing games with vague charts and descriptions, these are the smells they use as benchmarks and identifiers. I think something similar may be going on and I just lack the experience with Kyara's range. The scent that makes you fork over your life savings to make one just one Oud. Her signature scent is a combination of white musk, jasmine, and sandalwood. Miu Miu has staged shows in Milan, New York, and London, showing in Paris since 2006. What I aim to accomplish in naming an oil Kinam or Kyarais one of two things. If whatever-piece-of-wood fulfills certain scent characteristics, it gets the label. Or the occasions I need its calming and centering presence. Thank you. Kyara stays bitter and medicinal with hints of Purple Kinam in the background. And the olfactory density is of the highest caliber, it is immediately brain-piercing. Ants smell the chemicals that make up odors with olfactory receptors on their antennae. WebFragrance notes. Too bad it costs so much, but that's because it's rare, or is it?? Thats what makes this kinam kit such an eye-opener. It is profound.Rasoul / Canada, It is, without reservation, a piece of art. WebSome foods and medications, such as asparagus or certain vitamins, can cause a noticeable urine odor, even in low concentrations. Dunk the blackest Nha Trang logs you can get your hands on into the thickest copper cauldron you can forge, and it wont smell like this. Every autumn, many treasures of Shosoin are exhibited in National Museum in Nara, titled Shosoin Ten (Exhibition). This. New York forests tend to smell of pine and fern. Connoisseurs refine their senses and appreciation because thats how you evolve. Thats why you hardly see any advertised. The Japanese incense houses and Chinese agarwood collectors monopolize kinam because they sought out and bought out all of it over the years, long before others caught on thats why soil kyara is a big thing now, because with no living kyara trees standing, the only place youre likely to find kyara today is underground. The wood itself is smooth, powerfully fragrant, and dark-edged. Fatty aldehydes contain between 8 and 13 carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity or floral scent. WebThe frozen water smells pure, as if still trapped in the clouds hanging just overhead. Also, just like someone may adore their 1900 vintage Cabernet, sometimes box Zinfandel sparkles with its own charm! The smell packs so much punch, the different batches so sizzlingly synthesized into a new scent, you cant even pinpoint a single note. Alhamdulillah, I have had the good fortune to sample some of the best ouds from the far corners of the earth, and, clearly, Kyara is not from this world.Faisal / USA, This AM the day got started with a gentle and small application of Kyara. Thats why kyara discussions often read like philosophy lectures, and why it makes for a great marketing hook to cash in on the confusion. Thats why you hardly see any advertised. Diehard skeptics who criticize the Chinese school and insist that its a marketing trick miss one crucial point: Its MUCH easier to find Vietnamese kinam than Chinese kinam. Kyara is a particular odor described as A gentle and dignified smell with a touch of bitterness. I'm yet to experience Kyara and maybe someday will try it out and share my experience. Generally when I buy on eBay I get one. I have nothing against plantation cultivated wood, be it agarwood or Kinam. You can order four unique kinds right now and know more than anyone stuck in them charts will in a decade speculating about what this bitter note is theyre talking about. But historically, its accurate. Not that its a conglomeration or collage, rather its an ordered universe of the finest molecules in balance, and it is shatteringly awesome to experience. The resin created as a natural immune response makes the most sacred oil on the planet. Being a newer distillation it has a great top note profile. When you want to learn about samurai swords, who do you seek out a guy in Iowa or master Osaka? Dogs can be trained to smell several types of cancers, including melanoma, breast and gastrointestinal cancers and some infectious diseases in humans, including malaria and Parkinsons disease. Ranjatai has been now been identified as coming from Laos or Vietnam by Japan's leading expert on Aloeswood, Dr. Yoneda from Osaka University. Fantastic write up, I enjoyed reading. 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